EDMW Eat Drink Man Woman Forum edmw
Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by US: Russian sources - Printable Version

+- EDMW Eat Drink Man Woman Forum edmw (https://edmw.org)
+-- Forum: EDMW (https://edmw.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Eat-Drink-Man-Woman (https://edmw.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=9)
+--- Thread: Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by US: Russian sources (/showthread.php?tid=2387)



Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by US: Russian sources - tripleyou - 02-14-2024

Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by US: Russian sources

- Moscow sent signals to US in 2023 through intermediaries, Russian sources said

- The deadliest conflict in Europe since World War II is grinding into its third year

14 Feb, 2024

[Image: w8D03Cc.jpeg]

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of a ceasefire in Ukraine to freeze the war was rejected by the United States after contacts between intermediaries, three Russian sources with knowledge of the discussions told Reuters.

The failure of Putin’s approach ushers in a third year of the deadliest conflict in Europe since World War II and illustrates just how far apart the world’s two largest nuclear powers remain.

A US source denied there had been any official contact and said Washington would not engage in talks that did not involve Ukraine.

Putin sent signals to Washington in 2023 in public and privately through intermediaries, including through Moscow’s Arab partners in the Middle East and others, that he was ready to consider a ceasefire in Ukraine, the Russian sources said.

Putin was proposing to freeze the conflict at the current lines and was unwilling to cede any of the Ukrainian territory controlled by Russia, but the signal offered what some in the Kremlin saw as the best path towards a peace of some kind.

“The contacts with the Americans came to nothing,” a senior Russian source with knowledge of the discussions in late 2023 and early 2024 told Reuters on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.

A second Russian source with knowledge of the contacts told Reuters that the Americans told Moscow, via the intermediaries, they would not discuss a possible ceasefire without the participation of Ukraine and so the contacts ended in failure.

A third source with knowledge of the discussions said: “Everything fell apart with the Americans”. The source said that the Americans did not want to pressure Ukraine.

The extent of the contacts - and their failure - has not previously been reported.

It comes as US President Joe Biden has for months been pushing Congress to approve more aid for Ukraine, but has faced opposition from allies of Republican presidential nomination front runner Donald Trump.

The Kremlin, the White House, the US State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all declined to comment.

Putin sent thousands of troops into Ukraine in February 2022, triggering a full-scale war after eight years of conflict in eastern Ukraine between Ukrainian forces on the one side and pro-Russian Ukrainians and Russian proxies on the other.

Ukraine says it is fighting for its existence and the West casts Putin’s invasion as an imperial-style land grab that challenges the post-Cold War international order.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he will never accept Russia’s control over Ukrainian land. He has outlawed any contacts with Russia.

A US official, speaking in Washington on condition of anonymity, said that the US has not engaged in any backchannel discussions with Russia and that Washington had been consistent in not going behind the back of Ukraine.

The US official said that there appeared to have been unofficial “Track II” conversations among Russians not in the government but that the United States was not engaged in them.

The US official said Putin’s proposal, based on what has been publicly reported, was unchanged from past demands that Russia hold on to Ukrainian territory. The official suggested that there appeared to be frustration in Moscow that Washington had repeatedly refused to accept it.

Putin told US talk-show host Tucker Carlson last week that Russia was ready for “dialogue”.





Intermediaries met in Turkey in late 2023, according to three Russian sources.

A fourth diplomatic source said that there had been Russian-US unofficial contacts through intermediaries at Russia’s initiative but that they appeared to have come to nothing.

The US official said he was unaware of unofficial contact through intermediaries.

According to three Russian sources, Putin’s signal was relayed to Washington, where top US officials including White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, Central Intelligence Agency Director Bill Burns and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken met.

The idea was that Sullivan would speak to Putin’s foreign policy adviser, Yuri Ushakov, and set out the next steps, one of the Russian sources said.

But when the call came in January, Sullivan told Ushakov that Washington was willing to talk about other aspects of the relationship but would not speak about a ceasefire without Ukraine, said one of the Russian sources.

The US official refused to be drawn on any details of Sullivan’s purported calls, or whether such a conversation with Ushakov took place.

One of the Russian sources expressed frustration with the United States over Washington’s insistence that it would not nudge Ukraine towards talks given that the United States was helping to fund the war.

“Putin said: ‘I knew they wouldn’t do anything’,” another of the Russian sources said. “They cut off the root of the contacts which had taken two months to create.”

Another Russian source said that the United States did not appear to believe Putin was sincere.

“The Americans didn’t believe Putin was genuine about a ceasefire - but he was and is - he is ready to discuss a ceasefire. But equally Putin is also ready to fight on for as long as it takes - and Russia can fight for as long as it takes,” the Russian source said.

The Kremlin sees little point in further contacts with the United States on the issue, the Russian sources said, so the war would continue.


RE: Vladimir Putin’s suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by US: Russian sources - Nicky77 - 03-31-2024

Vladimir Putin's proposal for a ceasefire in Ukraine has been met with rejection by the US, according to Russian sources. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine continues to be a point of contention between Russia and the West, with diplomatic efforts to resolve the situation proving challenging. https://storysaver.page/ This latest development underscores the deep-seated tensions and differing perspectives between the involved parties.